by Peter Blackstock
Three things about Folk Uke that you should know right off the bat:
1. Theyre funny, but theyre not necessarily a comedy act. To wit: The Austin, Texas, duo has a tune called Nobody Blues thats about finding a severed foot by the railroad tracks but the sweetness in the harmonies of Cathy Guthrie and Amy Nelson somehow makes the lark resonate as a sentimental song.
2. Theyre not ukulele virtuosos. While they were happy to sit for an interview with this publication, Guthrie noted, I hope I dont have to know anything about the ukulele. Self-deprecation is one of Folk Ukes strong suits, though Guthrie and Nelson are not above the occasional outlandish boast: When I assure them that they dont have to be on the level of Jake Shimabukuro, Nelson deadpans, Cathys better than him.
3. Their dads are iconic American songwriters. This is not something they trumpet at their shows. Guthrie and Nelson draw the line at their family ties being touted as the main attraction, but that doesnt mean theyre not happy to be the daughters of Willie Nelson and Arlo Guthrie, who have played on Folk Ukes two albums.
I dont think either of us mind talking about our dads or anything like that, Nelson says, because theyre actually really cool.
Plus, she adds, I think weve influenced our dads music in a lot of ways.
The two women last about a second before breaking up in laughter.
You were totally straight-faced when you said it, Guthrie commends.
Famous by Association
Family, music, levity: So goes a conversation with Folk Uke over lunch at a Mexican restaurant in Austin. Nelson was born here, but she moved to San Diego with her mother Connie after she and Willie split during their daughters teen years.
Guthrie grew up on the East Coast, but attended college at San Diego State. The two met in the late 90s when they worked together at Croces, a restaurant and bar run by Ingrid Croce, the wife of the late singer-songwriter Jim.
Nelson and Guthrie were hesitant to get to know each other initially, on account of their parents almost pushing them together. As Nelson puts it, Its like, Youve got to see this movie, and then youre like, Nah, I dont even want to see this movie now.
Guthrie nods before adding, But then we met and we were quickly good friends.
The two bonded partly over a mutual performance anxiety that humor helped them overcome. Nelson had sung harmonies with her sister Paula and played briefly with Casey Kristofferson (daughter of Kris Kristofferson and Rita Coolidge); Guthrie had occasionally sung with her father and sisters. But stepping into the limelight was a different experience.
One thing Cathy and I share is that we had pretty serious stage fright when we started, Nelson says. I think part of the reason we did it was because youre supposed to conquer your fears, and not sit there and let them conquer you.
The casual nature of the ukulele helped them get started. Nelson got into it first, and soon Guthrie wanted to learn.
I taught her three chords, and she was like, Whats another one? Whats another one? Nelson says. She picked it up real fast.
When they started playing together, both women were on ukulele. Nelson eventually switched to guitar, which helped give the duo more low-end range. I missed being able to go down and hear the bass string, she says.
Guthrie preferred ukulele to guitar simply because your fingers dont hurt as much. And its less intimidating, just the size.
Its easier to play while driving, Nelson adds. You dont text and drive, but you can play ukulele and drive. Theres no law.
Years ago, Guthrie and Nelson got involved in their respective family businesses behind the scenesCathy running Arlos Rising Son label, Amy as part of Willies road crew. Thats partly because they werent sure they were cut out for the musical paths some of their siblings pursued. Guthries younger sister Sarah Lee is an accomplished singer-songwriter; Nelsons half-brothers Lukas and Micah have been touring in Neil Youngs band.
I think in our families, music can be an intimidating thing, Guthrie says. If people hear that youre a musician, they expect you to actually be really good. But its OK to not be really good at ukulele. It takes the pressure off.
In the early 2000s, the two friends started playing together for fun at parties, quickly gravitating to off-color humor. They started writing songs such as Knock Me Up and Shit Makes the Flowers Grow, both of which appear on their self-titled 2005 debut album.
Guthrie remembers playing those two songs at one of Folk Ukes first gigs, a short set at the annual WoodyFest in Oklahoma that celebrates her iconic grandfather. They left the songs off the set list at first, figuring WoodyFest is a family event. But Arlo called them on it.
He said, Youre not going to play the good stuff? Guthrie recalls. We were like, Well, theres kids. But he said, You dont play for your audience, you play for yourself.
They took his advice. People were kind of snickering during Shit, and a little bit in Knock Me Up, Nelson remembers. And then as soon as Cathy said love injection, the silence was so loudbut there was something about that, where we realized, gosh . . .
. . . We can silence a room! Guthrie says, finishing the thought.
Its a good memory that we have together, Nelson reflects. We can say, yeah, remember the time . . .
Remember the time that we offended them? Guthrie chimes in.
There would be plenty more of those times, like an Easter show in Aspen, Colorado. Just tell one Jesus joke on Easter and its over, Nelson laments. No doubtespecially when the joke is, If you have a resurrection that lasts for more than four hours, call your doctor.
But Seriously . . .
There would be no Folk Uke without the funny stuff, although Nelson and Guthrie are wise enough to realize they dont have to be joking all the time. Some wistful songs are naturally suited to their harmonies, like Johnny Cashs I Still Miss Someone, which they recorded for their first album.
Theyre also glad to toss the occasional bone to fans of their famous families who inevitably show up at gigs. Frequently, Folk Uke will play California Stars, the Woody Guthrie lyrics set to music by Wilco and Billy Bragg. Over lunch, Nelson and Guthrie discuss the idea of working up Steve Goodmans City of New Orleans, a song that Willie recorded for his 1984 album of the same name, and that Arlo had turned into a Top 40 hit in 1972.
Sometimes the cover song choices reveal clever traces back to Nelson and Guthries comic predilections. The first track on their 2011 album Reincarnation is Harry Nilssons comic-book-like song He Needs Me, which Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl sings in Robert Altmans 1980 film Popeye, starring Robin Williams. And Folk Uke opened its first record with Tonight You Belong to Me, a 1920s tune that became forever associated with the ukulele when Steve Martin strummed one while singing it with Bernadette Peters in a scene from The Jerk.
Nelson and Guthrie express fondness for the standup heyday of Martin and Richard Pryor, the latter of whom they credit as an inspiration for their parental-advisory-burdened ditty Motherfucker Got Fucked Up. Says Nelson, When we can remember, we dedicate it to him, because hes kind of the one who coined motherfucker, in a sense. He made the word what it is. He made it funny.
Its very versatile, Guthrie adds, noting that theyve been spinning off of the M-word for the theme theyve adopted on the album theyre currently recording, Starfucker.
Or, Nelson quickly adds, Constellation Consummation.
People have been trying to talk us out of Starfucker because wed never be able to have it on any shelves on any stores ever, Nelson explains, although Guthrie figures its probably not much of a loss: I dont think either of our CDs have been on any shelves at all.
Nelsons certain of one thing: Walmart wont have us.
Folk Ukes fashion line also probably wont fly at the big box stores, given that their most-coveted T-shirt sports an image that has become the bands unofficial logo: A unicorn vomiting a rainbow. It was inspired partly by Guthries daughter Marjorie, who joined her a few years ago on a tour of Australia.
She got sick, and I was like, Oh my god, what do I do? I have a four-year-old sick, and were on tour and we have to be at the radio station, Guthrie remembers. I was so worried, but she had the best attitude. She threw up, and then she was like, Hey mom, Ive never puked in Australia before!
Live & Smokin
Its a Thursday night in early November at Strange Brew, Austins top venue for acoustic music, and Folk Uke is careening its way through a 90-minute show, a performance thats a bit longer than usual for Nelson and Guthrie. Over the summer, they played a short set at Willies annual 4th of July Picnic in Austin, after a spring tour opening for the legendary punk and roots band X.
Behind the duo looms a lit-up sign that commands, Silence. Strange Brew is known for encouraging its crowds to respect the artists, yet Guthrie cant help but wonder: I think thats for us.
The hour and a half goes by quickly, thanks to Folk Ukes balance of songs both silly and sincere, peppered liberally with the kind of banter that made them performers non grata at that Easter show in Aspen. This is a really comfortable stool, Nelson marvels early in the show. There must be stool softener on these. Pause. Speaking of stool . . . and thats Guthries cue to crank up the ukulele opening of Shit Makes the Flowers Grow.
The audience gets into the spirit, at one point trading bad jokes back-and-forth with the performers. Guthrie tells one about the circus fire: It was in tents. Someone asks what you would call a boat full of potatoes and penises. Nelson and Guthrie give up. A dick tater ship, he reveals.
Thats just how it goes at a Folk Uke show.
And then the ukulele, the guitar, and Nelson and Guthries voices come together for three minutes of traditional folk-music bliss. Ill twine with my mingles and waving black hair/ With the roses so red and the lilies so fair, they sing, and for a brief moment, the simple beauty of their music shines through on Wildwood Flower.At the end, Nelson and Guthrie are quick to credit the Carter Familyin case you thought we wrote it.